I have added a couple paragraphs to the end of this post that may clarify what I was trying to say.
You may have noticed that certain types of public policy proposals tend to generate strong reactions in Monona, often quite emotional responses seemingly out of all proportion to the subject at hand. I have been pondering why this might be so. I mean, to take the issue du jour, do people really care that much about whether their neighbors raise a few chickens?
These upsetting proposals generally come from the liberal or progressive wing, are viewed as unconventional, relate to a topic that is easy to grasp, and has already been tried out in Madison (as well as lots of other places, but that’s beside the point). My working title for this phenomenon is The Madison Affect.
Three examples will represent the kinds of topics I am thinking of: domestic partner health insurance coverage for city workers, the smokefree Monona ordinance, and now the urban chicken proposal. You can probably think of others. A certain segment of the Monona populace gets quite agitated about these types of proposals. That agitation provokes a burst of energy from the other side and away we go with a full-fledged kerfuffle.
First off, the reactions to these kinds of policy proposals contain a sizable and straight-forward political element. Simply put, these proposals come from the progressive side and provoke a negative response from conservatives. But surely something more than that is going on here.
The argument is sometimes advanced directly that a proposal is a bad idea because ‘it comes from Madison’, which is not really an argument, but simply expresses a prejudice (a prejudice that also reflects the political element). Whether Madison has adopted a particular policy is not a substantive argument for or against the adoption of that policy in Monona.
On the other hand, Monona is located next door to Madison and they do have a lot bright folks over there. It would be silly to put on blinders so that we in Monona do not consider any proposal that has already been tried across the lake. We can take ideas from Appleton or Marshfield, but not Madison? Ideas have no geographic location and are not owned by anyone or any group. Ideas deserve evaluation on their merits not their geographic provenance.
But something else is afoot.
Monona is a funny place. People move here and stay a lifetime. We like what we have here and we don’t want it messed up – even if we do reserve the right to complain. The interesting thing is that Monona is actually a very young community as communities go. My hometown of Mt. Vernon, Illinois was founded in 1817. Anyone involved in its founding has been dead for 150 years or so. Monona, by contrast, was founded as a village in 1938 and as a city on April 3, 1969, a mere 40 years ago. Perhaps this relative newness makes our politics a bit more personal.
A few of the people involved in building the city are still around town and many more are well-remembered by those who have been involved with city government in the past 4 decades. For instance, when Dean Bowles was first elected to the city council, the city of Monona was just four years old. The guy who founded my hometown, on the other hand, has the junior high named after him. Nobody alive knows much about Zadok Casey, but they do associate a lot of bad memories with his name.
Monona’s face, if you will, was literally and figuratively shaped within the lifetimes of most of its residents. The dredging of the Winnequah Park lagoon, for instance, took place in 1962-63. Monona Cable has recently been showing a film of this dredging and filling work narrated by then-village engineer Paul Rapp. When I first became involved in Monona politics back in 1989, I was fortunate enough to serve with Mr. Rapp on the Public Works Committee. At that same time, Glen Thousand, the city’s original assessor still held the post. Get the idea? Perhaps the very newness of the city makes some people resist changes to the city they helped build (or at the very least watched others build).
To some folks, these kinds of policy ideas represent unwelcome and unconventional change. Some folks fear that Monona will become ‘just like Madison’ and lose its own identity; that we will lose the special something that makes Monona the place we love to live. That is simply not going to happen.
While it is worth noting that Monona voters are now slightly more liberal than Dane County voters as a whole, the ‘Monona difference’ is not really about the politics. Those of us who have moved here in the past 5, 15 or 25 years moved here because we saw something we wanted. Whether we decide to allow people to raise a few chickens or not, Monona will preserve its special identity.
We have some things that Madison can only envy, but never have. First of all, our population is small enough that we know each other – sometimes maybe a little too well! We have life on a human scale. We also have many exceptionally able and interesting people in our town and we can get to know them because our social scale is compressed. We mix the hoi polloi with the high-and-mighty in a way that makes it awfully hard to be hoity toity.
People come to Monona and stay - or in some cases they come back and stay. Unlike many small towns, where many of the 'best and brightest' look for the first chance to leave town and never look back, a remarkable number of young Mononans look for a chance to get back here. This stability contributes to an unusual depth of community commitment and a vibrant political life. Hang around town for awhile and you can be on a first-name basis with all of your local elected officials and other civic leaders. Or step up, volunteer, and become one of our leaders yourself. Try that in Madison.
This stability may also make some of us want to jealously guard what we have against ‘newcomers’ who want to change some things. It can also make people feel like newcomers or outsiders even after they have lived here for many years. On the lighter side, even after you’ve lived in your home for 15 years, it is not uncommon for the house to still be known by the name of your predecessors, as in, ‘oh, you live in the Krajco home’ – even though you have lived in the house since 1991. But it really can be tough to attain a sense of belonging and acceptance here. We could work on that one, folks.
We would also be well-advised to embrace the newcomers in our midst and invite them to fully participate in our civic life. I’m thinking they have some good ideas and a lot of energy to contribute. We’re good, but we’re far from perfect, and we can do better. Stability is good, staleness is not. New people with new ideas can help reshape what we have into something even better.
We have made it a public policy priority to attract and keep families. Do we really want to tell people, “If you want to raise backyard chickens, go to a smokefree bar, or get health insurance for your life partner, then head on down the road because we don’t want you or your unconventional ideas around here”? We are strong enough and secure enough to try some new things without losing our sense of civic identity or lessening our commitment to this place we call home.
We care deeply about our schools, our library, our parks, our parade, our festival, our farmers’ market, our lake, our neighbors – you name it. Sometimes this depth of commitment makes us reduce those on the other side of a political argument to unfair caricatures. We would be well-advised to assume the good faith of the folks on the other side a bit more than we do. I include myself in that admonishment.
Trying a few new public policies is not going to change the basic ‘it’ that makes Monona the place we love to live.
Addendum:
Upon further reflection, I would add that part of my goal in this post was to understand *why* certain types of proposals get some Monona residents quite agitated - aside from and in addition to the obvious political aspect.
What I failed to make clear enough was that part of the explanation is that because Monona has not been around very long so that there are people who have lived here throughout all or most of the history of the city. These people, or some of them, may see certain policy proposals as a threat to what they see as the identity of Monona. In this context, the vehemence of their reaction is more understandable. They built the city and don't want it changed.
I happen to disagree with them in thinking that these policy differences are the defining characteristics of Monona, but I think I understand a bit better why they react the way they do. And that was why I asked that we all, on both sides, assume the good faith of the other side and that we all have the best interests of Monona in mind.
Friday, February 20, 2009
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SPLENDID! A Monona Alder and blogger who is also an intellectual who writes well.
ReplyDeleteHow many times have I watched/listened to the city council meetings when Mayor Kahl and Alder Thomas explode in disgust at Madison and its culture. WYOU was a particular hooha for decent Mononans...and those silly student/leftists and their block parties.
Especially virulent were the condemnations of Madison 'foreign policy' debates, with attitudes that 'weren't our business'...Bring the Troops Home" was definitely a madison conspiracy which had leaked into patriotic Monona.
WalMart,TIF districts,
Shop til you Drop, and let us smoke and burn leaves when and where we want...that's uniquely Monona. And Squaw was good settler name for them Winnebago women(don't ask the Ho-Chunk).
Thankfully, as Woods points out, this mythic Monona is in reality fading away, only kept alive by some small clique of pols and censors of the politically correct.
It might just be me, but those issues seem to be more of a generational divide than a progressive/conservative one. The items that you mention (chickens, smoke-free dining and domestic partner benefits) are definitely more accepted by our younger generation, as opposed to more traditional progressive ideas such as good schools, social services, etc.
ReplyDeleteOur median age is 10 years older than Madison (41 years old vs 31, although that may include the students) and 5 years older than the rest of Wisconsin. Houses are older and neighborhoods are more established than in neighboring E. Madison, and the average housing price is higher too.
All of this is definitely noticeable to my wife and I, who are young and recent residents here:
1) Smoke-free dining: I hate to say it, but the last time my wife and I dined in Monona was August, when we ate outside at the BSG. We tried to eat at an local establishment a couple weeks ago, but the stench of smoke caused us to turn around and walk out. We usually eat out once every week or so, but are willing to make the short trek to Madison in order to avoid the smoke.
2) Lack of bike paths. Yes, E. Madison is partly to blame for the lack of a continuous path around the lake, and the lack of traffic on Midmoor and Waunona mean riding the streets aren't bad, but it's definitely noticeable that outdoor activities like cycling and running aren't as high priorities here as in Madison. The recent brouhaha with the Mayor threatening to fine bicycle riders who don't use the extremely dangerous up/down/sidewalk *thing* is a prime example of this.
3) Businesses targeting an older, more mature audience; Monona Drive has a high percentage of real estate offices, furniture and bedding stores, banks and gas stations/auto repair shops and fewer coffee shops, cafe's, restaurants, and other "walk up" establishments.
My point is that as time goes on and the population ages, moves out and is replaced by a younger generation, there are probably going to be more of these issues coming up. Traditional progressive values will be replaced by neo-progressive issues, and we'll either have to adjust, or have more "kerfluffles"...
Gosh, thanks Doug for setting us long, long, long time Monona residents straight.
ReplyDeleteHow wonderful of you to inform us that it's not actual policy that we disagree with, it's the messengers.
I don't even want to know to what political party an alder may belong. It's supposed to be a non-partisan position.
PS. Many of us have figured out a long time ago that your model isn't Madison, it's a city somewhere in the land of Utopia where attorneys rule over a grateful population.
Guilfoil, thanks for the kind words, but my point was that it is NOT these political issues that makes Monona different.
ReplyDeleteBut whatever you do don't call me 'Woods'! No 'S'! ;->
Travis, interesting points, but see the next anonymous post for whether these issues are political or not! As for your specific points, the city smokefree ordinance goes into effect in just a few months. We are working on ped and biker safety.
As for attracting a different type of Monona Drive development, city policies do not really control what type of development occurs. Rebuilding and improving the road will help. If we push too hard for something that no business developer wants to do then we risk ending up with *new* empty buildings.
"Gosh, thanks Doug for setting us long, long, long time Monona residents straight." See what I mean about no welcoming 'newcomers'? I've been here for nearly 25 years, but that's not long enough for anonymous.
Anonymous, exactly how long does somebody have to live here to be able to offer a valid opinion about the city?
Anony, re-read my post. I certainly recognize that people like you disagree with my policies and probably do not like me either. My point, again, is that these political differences are NOT really the defining difference of Monona.
I was not trying to 'set anyone straight'. I was offering my take on the city and what makes it special. What do *you* think are the defining characterisitics of Monona that set it apart?
Hi Doug. Thanks for offering this up as a discussion point as there's not much else to do on a cold and snowy Saturday in Wisconsin but to talk about how great our city is... :)
ReplyDeleteAnd to clarify, I didn't mean that it wasn't political as Anon after my first post so eloquently proves. However, it does seem to be that the more generational issues draw the biggest commotion. See the article:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/23140/Americans-Odds-Over-Gay-Rights.aspx
Older Americans oppose gay marriage / civil union benefits by quite a large margin, and the younger groups are in favor of it. So even with a relatively liberal city, there is still going to be more resistance due to the demographics of Monona.
I also realized something after I typed my last post: It seems that the previous generation of Mononans moved here to get away from the city of Madison. The new generation of people (myself and several coworkers that I know of) moved here in order to be close to Madison. Housing prices are better (and more property) than downtown, and the houses/neighborhoods are better than in nearby E. Madison, but at the end of the day we moved here due to it being, in effect, a suburb of Madison. If Monona were 15 miles away from where it is now, we probably wouldn't be living here.
I guess it might just come down to whether you moved here to be close to Madison or not.
I think the original Frostwoods neighborhood documents relate directly to the type of people that are the anointed ones. Everyone should read this lovely document.
ReplyDelete"I also realized something after I typed my last post: It seems that the previous generation of Mononans moved here to get away from the city of Madison. The new generation of people (myself and several coworkers that I know of) moved here in order to be close to Madison."
ReplyDeleteTravis, good point and succinctly stated. Your explanation is simpler than mine, so it has the Occam's Razor advantage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ockham_razor
I am going to re-read the Monona in the Making segment on the founding. There was an annexation fight to create Monona as a separate entity.
The "original Frostwoods neighborhood documents relate directly to the type of people that are the anointed ones."
ReplyDeleteWell, not so fast my friend. I used to live in the FWHA area and my jaw dropped when I saw the racial restriction (whites only). HOWEVER, this restriction was removed by vote of the members in *1954*.
You can see the original agreement and other documents here:
http://www.frostwoods.org/images/FWHA_Members_Guide.pdf
"It seems that the previous generation of Mononans moved here to get away from the city of Madison. The new generation of people (myself and several coworkers that I know of) moved here in order to be close to Madison."
ReplyDeleteMy feeling exactly... my husband and I moved to Monona a few years ago, because it offered offered a charming older neighborhood with mature trees, some nice community amenities (e.g. parks, library), decent schools, and ACCESS TO MADISON!
I think the attitude that "if Madison does it, Monona shouldn't" is ridiculous and is more likely to drive out younger families than keep them here.
With two young kids, I too have pretty much given up on Monona restaurants until they go smoke free (with the exception of some that are voluntarily smoke free). It's too easy to cross the border and eat in Madison... for one thing, it saves on dry-cleaning bills.
Another issue that seems to spark the ire of "anti Madison" Mononans: Bus service. I still don't get why can't we partner with Madison Metro to provide bus service that serves more than a few people going to downtown (uh, Madison) during rush hour.
Doug, why don't you run for Mayor?
HOWEVER, this restriction was removed by vote of the members in *1954*.
ReplyDeleteracial restriction (whites only).
So I assume these same people defined the rules that we live under? Why would they have an ounce of credibility. Since 1954 they can make non-whites follow their rules? What is American about this? And we have to pay for this abuse.
"So I assume these same people defined the rules that we live under?"
ReplyDeleteUhh, depends on what 'rules' and who the 'we' is that you mention.
The rules *only* govern property owners in the FWHA, which was founded in 1935. The FWHA members removed the racial restriction in 1954.
You are only covered by these rules if you live in the FWHA neighborhood and should have known about the association when you bought the property.
If you have a beef with the FWHA, you need to take it up with their board.
Perhaps you are making a larger point, but I am not getting it.
In general, I think you have it about right. For more example, the roundabout and the school referendum.
ReplyDeleteI think where it goes bad is when people start to run down the other people with differing opinions and say you do not care...you must want this to happen....your motivations are awful.
Of course-I haven't ever done that... For example, the other day a nice person who I liked started to run down my kid's school....so I ran down his school.,...yep- that worked real well...sigh.
"Trying a few new public policies is not going to change the basic ‘it’ that makes Monona the place we love to live."
In general, I agree with you....but we have to be careful. Chickens? No that is not going to change the landscape and it could be fun...but other things like over paying for land and the city entering into the marketplace as a speculator....bad news for us all.
Seacrest Out,
Henny Penny
Chickens for Change
HP, You had me with you up until those last 2 items. (I don't know if I would include the school referendum fight in this analysis - that more ahrkens back to the really old days when the Village seceded from the Town of Blooming Grove.
ReplyDeleteOverpaying for land? Example(s)?
City entering the market as a speculator? Example(s)?
If you give me some examples I may or may not agree, but right now I'm not sure what you have in mind.
Henny Penny,
ReplyDeletecould you be referring to the over $6MM we paid for the new Senior Home site? That we then sold for $1 (yep, that's right, ONE DOLLAR), and then paid $&(^ tons of TIF to get developed??
And now, Frost woods commons (the competition just up the block) is so low on renters that they are advertising up to TWO MONTHS FREE RENT!! Not looking good for the guy trying to fill up rooms so he can build phase two.
OUCH.
"(I don't know if I would include the school referendum fight in this analysis - that more ahrkens back to the really old days when the Village seceded from the Town of Blooming Grove."
ReplyDeleteyea, I would, but that is just me.
Overpaying for land? Example(s)?
City entering the market as a speculator? Example(s)?
Development behind Ken's for starters and I do not mean to tweak your nose. Another example is our involvement or lack of involvement depending with the trailer park...depending on your view.
Seacrest out,
HP
I just wanted to suggest a write in song for the City of Monona to consider. After thinking of "Atlantic City" being a huge fan of The Boss, then considering
ReplyDelete"Dixie Chicken" out or respect for Harlan Sanders & Lowell George, but I settled on the obvious choice if we are not allowing chicken slaughtering, and just want great eggs. This is eggsactly the right choice for Monona!
Paul Simon's "Mother & Child Reunion" I just hope it isn't too late! I cast my vote for this Paul Simon classic! It was released as a single in 1972, and reached #4 on the American charts.
Paul Meyer - Shore Acres Rd.
The Garden Circle development is not really apposite for this post. I'll just say that I stand by that as an investment in the city's future.
ReplyDeleteHow did I forget Dixie Chickens?!
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the Dixie Chicks.
"I'll just say that I stand by that as an investment in the city's future."
ReplyDeleteI am 2 am for investing in the cities future, but when, where and how much are questions we can reasonable disagree about.